Is there such a thing as a good stigma?
Escape reality?
Ecstasy, cocaine?
Rather be dead than average?
Get “bigger‖ but why?
Want to get kids… Everything changes?
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Dreams?
The trying to break records is toxic?
Sports, motor sport — all distractions and diversions?
Jose conceco — juiced
“Un-American�
Rocky IV — communists takes steroids? 
1950s
Miracle drug
Embellishment?
Medical ethics?
 I suppose with medical ethics… If it could help somebody from killing themselves, committing suicide, or literally dying from some sort of incurable disease, take unlimited of it! However, if it is just done recreationally, for Phung, for Schitt and giggles, it is patently bad.
For example, if somebody is recovering from cancer, whatever… And marijuana THC or cannabis can use the pain… Obviously it is very good! I would not wish a root canal on my worst enemy without pain killing drugs. 
I suppose the issue here then is more of the nuances; like for example going to Vegas, going to a festival, trying to be cool with your friends, popping a bunch of stuff in order to “have fun?â€
Flawless?
Perhaps perfect design or perfect things is when you critically think it says something, and there is really no visible flaw? Nothing that bothers you?
Perfect design; once you are at the point that there’s nothing that bothers you? Then after that point, just stick with it?
Sue God?
No safe drugs; always a benefit to risk ratio
All media is bad
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The ethics of steroids  
Maybe the best way to approach it is just let everybody do steroids, 100%, in all sports, and just simply assume that everyone is doing it?
We could apply this to pro sports, Olympics, everything.
And then what happens is we gain a reality clarity behind things :
- First, anybody who is a professional athlete, Olympian, professional wrestler, Hollywood star, is on it.
- You start to separate these guys as the weirdos, and you put a metaphorical red flag on them.
- And then… At least now that we have the reality of what is really going on, there could be a proper arms race for all sides to develop whatever steroids or whatever, to improve their athletes, or the actors on stage.
Yes make it all 100% legal, but the new ones is maybe there needs to be some sort of age limit? Like you can’t buy them off the shelf, unless you have a prescription, or you’re 18 years old or over? 
And then… Obviously, you’re going to have kids teenagers, high school students peddling this stuff like they do Adderall; And this is terrible, because a lot of kids in these elite schools take these drugs in order to stay up, cram for the test, get good grades etc.
As a parent what we do is simple; just don’t put them in any sports, it is all a commoditized sham anyways. And also, not setting some sort of arbitrary benchmarks to their academic performance, which once again leads to depression anxiety, unhealthy behaviors, drug use etc.
The best way to change the world: have kids, and impute your own values into your kids.
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Cosmetic issues
Red meat
“I like being big … I have “small man complexâ€
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Small man complex,
Attention?
The funny irony… We like to get attention? From other men?
It seems that the truth of the matter is prefer to get attention from other men, not women?
Obviously, every man seeks a beautiful mate to produce beautiful children. However, beyond that, why?
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Go ahead, stare? 
A thought experiment… How big can you naturally get your biceps?
But then again why does this matter?
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Bad role models?
Be the barracuda?
Strong male figure?
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When you go to work, you go to kill, not be killed
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Your morals are your morals, why should I judge you, why should you judge me?
Gene doping?
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Become the role model to your kid!
Still cheating yet… But like everybody else, taking weird drugs that are not banned?
Don’t trust any bodybuilder who takes supplements or even protein powder?
Am I the first and the only weightlifter that I know that doesn’t even consume protein powder?
This is my funny thought… Obviously there are some people who take protein powder or obviously not on steroids. But I could almost universally tell you that anybody on steroids is definitely taking protein powder.
Then… If you have somebody like me, who doesn’t even take protein powder, typically this is a signal that you’re almost 100% not taking steroids.
Why? The issue here is that anybody who is taking protein powder, drugs steroids or whatever… They’re trying to get an edge, they’re trying to maximize an optimize, they suffer from FOMO of the gains.
It happened to me when I was younger, after a lifting session, I felt this frentic need to consume way protein powder immediately after my workout, or else I would not get the gains! Or even the worst fear; that I would become smaller? 
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Smile, not smile? If you know you’re cheating you know?
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Follow the money!
“ Inadvertent useâ€
Don’t move — let others move around you! 
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You vote with your money
Think about the kids?
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Not feeling it