How To Deal With Haters On The Internet

by Eric Kim on March 12, 2012

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Over the last few months, the amount of haters and online trolls I have attracted has increased exponentially. They are everywhere—on Facebook, Twitter, Flickr, Blogs, Online forums, and the worst—YouTube (I swear, half the things people say there…).

To be quite honest, I used to take a lot of these hateful things to heart—and it still does sting pretty hard time-to-time. Growing up, I always took criticism very personally—but through my experiences on the blog and my online social presence has helped me overcome (mostly) all of this haterade people on the internet love to drink.

For this post I will talk about a bit of my experience with haters on the internet, and some advice I would give to anyone else dealing with online trolls whose sole mission in life is to make you feel like crap (while they are still living in the basement of their parents’ house).

My experience with haters

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I always considered myself somewhat of a likeable and social person—but I have been getting a ton of haters spewing all this nasty stuff about me on the internet. Here are some of the most popular comments I get said about myself, and my thoughts/responses of each one:

1. You are horrible at street photography and take crap photos

I find it funny that most people who say this to me never leave a link to their own photography and work. If you are going to criticize others, at least put some skin in the game. I have also found that some people who often criticize me don’t shoot street photography at all (they take photographs of flowers and sunsets).

I am still relatively new in street photography (I have been only shooting for five years—and probably seriously the last two) and have a ton to learn. Although I don’t consider myself a great photographer yet, I would say I am a decent photographer. Hopefully within 10 years, I can start taking some truly amazing images.

Also note that there is a fine line between “hating” and “critique”. I have no problem with people not liking the way I take photographs (of my photographs themselves)—but people simply saying that “I suck” doesn’t help me become a better photographer.

2. If you shot me in the face with a flash, I would punch you in the face

I don’t know why I get so many violent threats via the internet in some shape or form. I mean at the end of the day—I’m just taking a photograph. There are many things that are far more worse that other people do (think about the businesspeople doing money-laundering and stealing hardworking tax dollars or people mugging innocent bystanders on the street). I always try my best to shoot with a smile—and openly and honestly.

I’ve heard some really nasty stuff—like people threatening to throw me in the middle of the road and get run over by cars, or people saying they would smash my Leica through my teeth. Why so violent?

I do piss people off occasionally when shooting street photography, but you never live life without pissing someone off. To be quite frank, I probably pissed off more people at my old job (screwing up reports and to-do-lists) than I do when shooting street photography (people usually smile and are quite happy to get their photos taken).

3. You know nothing about photography, are a hypocrite, and you should stop blogging

First of all let me say that I often times do get back on what I say (as my views on street photography are constantly evolving) but I wouldn’t consider myself a hypocrite. Being a hypocrite (despite popular belief) isn’t just going back on what one said—but “pretending to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that one does not actually have” (via Wikipedia). I always try my best to speak from the heart and honestly—but like all other humans out there, I have my flaws.

I think it is very important to constantly evolve/change your views on something. For example, the “101 things I learned in street photography” a year ago is quite different from what I believe in now, with the recent post on “102 things I learned in street photography”. If you fall victim to only thinking in one way—you end up becoming narrow-minded without being able to develop as a photographer, and a person.

I try to stay as open and transparent through my blog, through things I experiment with, things I have difficulties with—for the sake of keeping knowledge open and free to the masses. Everything on my blog is free, in which I write with my heart and soul—and often keeps me up late at night. I don’t blog because I am obliged to—but I do it because I love it.

At the end of the day, everything I wrote on my blog is my personal opinion and should be taken with a grain of salt. I met up a street photographer named Fabrizio Quagliuso recently and he said it best. He told me there were a lot of things on my blog that he agreed with and found insightful, but other things he didn’t find resonated with him—which is what I want people to get out of the blog.

I also encourage everyone out there who is interested in street photography to start their own blog—to share their thoughts, opinions, and experiences. To simply try to shut others down doesn’t help anybody.

4. You haven’t been shooting street photography for very long, what gives you the right to teach street photography workshops?

Although I haven’t shot street photography for many others out there, I am not completely new to street photography. I have shot for around five years, and have experimented relentlessly during the period with my street photography—particularly with the aspect of overcoming my fear of shooting street photography, and learning how to interact more with people.

People also confuse time with having to do anything with being fluent at anything. Just because someone says they have been shooting for twenty years doesn’t mean anything—as they could have only shot once a week, or once a month for those twenty years.

I would say that after getting laid off my old job, the amount of learning I have done with street photography within the last 7 months has been incredible. Rather than only spending an hour or two a day to street photography (my old job sucked 8 hours of each day) I now can fully devote myself to street photography and “work” on street photography for nearly 14 hours a day (blogging, shooting, reading books, meeting people, etc).

Also you don’t have to be the absolute best in the world to be an effective critic or teacher. I have had teachers who were absolutely brilliant and genius, but awful teachers—as they were horrible connecting with students. I have had sports coaches who weren’t that great at playing the sport themselves, but had a very strong understanding of the game and would be extremely effective coaches.

John Szarkowski (the director of photography of New York’s MOMA from 1962-1991) wasn’t a great photographer himself, but a brilliant art critic and writer. I also have heard friends who have attended photography workshops with great photographers, but didn’t get much out of the teaching.

For my street photography workshops, it is less about me “preaching” about street photography—but rather opening up a dialogue with both myself and the participants (and amongst themselves) about street photography. There are also many people out there who have little to no experience in street photography, who just need a bit of guidance and support—something that I feel that my workshops do well.

5. Why do you call yourself the self-proclaimed God of street photography?

I don’t know where people got this concept from—but I am definitely NOT the God of street photography, nor do I proclaim myself to be. I am like all of the other amateurs out there—I am constantly learning myself and find difficulties and aspire to become a great photographer.

I see the blog as more of a community platform—where street photographer from all around the world can connect, interact, and share their love of street photography. I only happen to be the hub that connects people—and am fortunate to have a blog that is quite popular, from the help of everyone out there.

How to deal with haters

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So enough about my personal experiences and rebuttals—you too may have random haters. People saying that they hate your photography, people who say that your photography isn’t street photography, or just people who are just trying to troll you for the hell of it. Below are some things that I have learned that have helped me sleep at night (and quite well!):

1. Love your haters

Wait—wait—love the haters? What do you mean?

If there’s anything I learned from Jesus—is that he had a ton of haters. A ton. I mean, the guy (although adored by many) was eventually crucified by those he was preaching to help out. Let’s also take Ghandi for instance—arguably one of the holiest man was assassinated by a hater—although he did nothing but spread positive messages and preached for peaceful uprisings against the British.

However both Jesus and Ghandi told us to not lash back at our haters with hate, but outpour feelings of love toward them.

Imagine if you are a hater and you put on some anonymous name like “Yousuck123” and your email address is “nochanceloser@gmail.com”. Imagine leaving a nasty comment to someone (trying to get them to respond in a negative way) and then having the person leave back a calm and supportive message back. You end up failing as a hater, and probably feeling a bit guilty about yourself and start wondering what you are doing in your life.

If you retaliate hate with more hate, you are only devouring a part in your soul which will make you more negative. Spread love and positivity—and you won’t let the haters get to you.

2. Realize haters gonna hate

One of the first videos I ever made (of me shooting street photography with a flash in Hollywood) got a massive amount of hate. As of now, I still have around 52% downvotes on it, and comments such as “if you did this to me, I would punch you in the face” or my favorite, “after watching this video, I am ashamed to call myself Asian”. I was quite surprised by all the comments I got, as I made the video as more of an instructional tool for those who asked me how I shot with a flash in the streets (without getting punched in the face).

In life, there are always going to be haters. You are going to get haters at work, haters at school, haters in your family, haters amongst your friends—haters, haters, haters.

But realize that with the internet, people don’t hate more—but they do it with the false impression that they can do it anonymously without any sort of repercussions.

Haters gotta realize that often times what goes around—comes around. I do believe a lot in karma—that if you treat others negatively, you are going to get screwed in the end. The same as what Jesus preached with the “golden rule”—do onto others as you would like done to yourself.

3. Ignore them

When you have online trolls, they want you to feel like crap (as the haters themselves are probably very insecure about themselves). However if you simply ignore them—they feel frustrated as you have nothing to feed them with—and they will simply frown, mope, and crawl back to the cave they came back from.

I believe there are times in which you should directly address trolls (such as if they say something blatantly false about yourself) – but most of the time just learn to ignore them. If they are spending their precious time to be some internet tough guy or bully, they either must really adore you, have some jealous feelings toward you, or simply have nothing better to do (quite sad!).

What advice would you have about dealing with haters? Would love to hear your feedback/thoughts/critiques/comments below!  

  • Jensemann

    Hi Eric,
    I do like your persective on things quiet often. And I like a lot of your Photos. I also believe that your way of validating the feedback you received in the right way.
    Let me know when you plan a workshop in the south of France.

  • Igor Levchenko

    Well, hate is the flip side, called popularity. It always has been and will be. I think that the haters best to just ignore

  • http://twitter.com/roddonic rodrigo baez

    Dude you have a really good and creative site here…. since my first day i knew these were mostly opinions as they are in every blog….

    so dont even take in consideration what people say ( if its negative obvious)… just enjoy what you do…

    for every haters there are atleast 5 of us with you!!

    good luck and keep going!!!

  • Genie

    Hi Eric,

    I’ve only just discovered your site, and let me say, how much I love it. Street Photography is a very difficult, but fantastic genre in photography and I think you, your work and your blog are just GREAT!!! I was just in the process of subscribing when I saw this post.

    As a photographer and lecturer in photography, I value criticism as a vehicle for growth, but haters are a whole other thing. The things you have reported in this post that have been said to you through your various sites are just horrible, vicious, demoralising and frankly just pure evil.

    This is my point of view:
    Say you’re having a dinner party in your home and one of your guests, gets up on the table and stools on your main course, it would ruin the party for everyone, wouldn’t it? You as host would need to take a drastic action to save the party from complete disaster, like throw the offending guest out.

    Your blog is like your home and your commenters are your guests. If one behaves in a way that insults you and as importantly, spoils the conversation for other guests then it is your responsibility to take strong action. My suggestion is that you establish a Civility Policy which warns commenters that though thoughtful criticism is appreciated, disrespectful and inappropriate comments will be deleted in the interest of genuine discourse.

    As for You Tube, commenting there can be quite vile as a matter of course and is out of your control, unless you disable comments which actually, may not be a bad idea. If someone has a genuine comment or question, they can visit your site to give/ask it. My two pence.

    In anycase, I THINK you’re the cat’s whiskers so keep up the good work!!! Success is the best defence!!!

  • robin wong

    Eric,
    You work has been a tremendous inspiration to many of us, I think that is what matters the most, to encourage the spirit of street photography and to motivate more people to pick up the camera and hit the streets.
    The last option, Ignore them probably works best. Do what you do best, and people will see your passion and your love for street photography. It is in the passion you have shown that so many people have followed you and supported you all along.
    Being in the limelight unfortunately attracted unwanted attention. There will aways be haters. We can’t please everyone.
    I too have come across this issue recently. Lets just focus on the core of photography, and many other things that make life more meaningful !!

  • http://thelifestream.org/ Simon Wallerstedt

    Good article as usual Eric. There are always going to be jealous and insecure people out there who’ll try to make others miserable so they’ll feel better about themselves. Just remember, as Rodrigo said, for every hater there are a lot more of us who enjoy your work and really appreciate what you’re doing! :)

  • Jahhead

    Excellent blog luv it …

  • Basic1

    The last time I checked people have a choice as to where they go on the internet. I choose to go to your site every morning. There is a big age difference between us but that does not stop me from admiring how you and your site have evolved. Keep up the good work.

  • Kevin Lim

    Hi Eric,

    I have just stumbled upon your website and spent the past few days going through your posts and photos. I must say, like the rest of your supporters here, I am very inspired by your courage and sincerity of your photography style. I used to be afraid to go up close to people to take their photos. But after watching your video with Kai and your photography style, I am encouraged that going forward to them with a smile is the best thing to do. I gave that a try yesterday and it worked! I know there are people who are against such style of photography, but like you said, street photography is about the moment and being engaged in the process of making that photo. So I guess it’s always a case of whether you like it or not. Nothing can please EVERYONE, so no point trying to please everyone. Nothing is perfect. Dare those haters to showcase their work and let people do the talking.

    Nonetheless, keep up the good work and remain positive! I’ll look forward to your next trip to Singapore to attend your workshop! SMILE and the world smiles with you!

  • Barba

    3.Ignore Them
    But by writing this….you’re not ignoring them.

    • Claudia C

      That’s not the point.

  • Rob LaRosa

    Keep doing what you’re doing, Eric. Your haters are jealous people that think they’re “better” than you at street photography (or photography in general) yet don’t have the brains for balls to match your accomplishments. It’s much easier for them to direct their laziness/incompetence as negativity toward you than it is to reflect on their own shortcomings and figure out how to succeed.

    In other words, it’s easier for them to write snarky comments from the anonymous safety of the internet then to actually put in effort to get better or get noticed.

    F***, em!

  • http://www.lrntn.wordpress.com/ lrntn

    I don’t do street photography (way too hard for me) but do come here and a few other street photo sites now and then. No “advice” here, but if you got “haters”, just means that you’re getting more and more popular . . . so “enjoy” all the baggage that comes w/fame :)

  • http://twitter.com/brysonwong brysonwong

    Revisiting this blog everyday. Good street photographer blog. :)

  • http://twitter.com/mattmaber matt maber

    Ignore them $++

  • luis andrei

    I’m not a streettog, but I enjoy the articles on your blog, and youtube videos, very much. It has certainly awaken an interest in my to try street photography.

  • http://twitter.com/civilservant_10 Kye

    You forgot, “Haters never sleep.”

  • Anton Lagana

    i can totally relate to this.. thanks for sharing this Eric..

  • http://www.bobsoltys.com Bob Soltys

    Thank you for this post, Eric. You set an example by doing what you love, and making a go of it. As for the critics, Richard Nixon said it best: “When you spend your time worrying about attacks that are made on you by your implacable critics, you only play into their hands, because you lose perspective and are diverted from serving the causes to which you have devoted your life.”

    - or as Richard Feynman put it: “What do you care what other people think?”

    • John Kim

      Good point. :)
      It reminds me of what Mr. Feynman said, “Of all its many values, the greatest must be the freedom to doubt.”
      People will get something which they are interested in from this blog. I don’t always agree to Eric’s opinion in this blog but it is true that I learned many things here. Sometimes I criticize/disagree Eric’s points, but we all have freedom to doubt about what is known to us as well. Eric doesn’t have to take it personally.

  • http://twitter.com/twocutedogs twocutedogs

    will be interesting to see if “poo” and “ramones” have anything to see about this post.

    • AlexCoghe

      We wanna see the fantastic images of poo and ramones!!!

      • 2girlsonecup

        awesome – alex, poo and 2cutedogs… it’s not like something like that happened before

      • Ramones

        Alex Coghe you completely miss the point as usual.

        • AlexCoghe

          You’ve got reason. Sorry for this. lol

        • AlexCoghe

          And naturally i like a lot your comment. lol

    • Ramones

      I guessing you are a hater of me so I’ll just say “Haters gonna hate”.
      So, by this logic I’ve won the argument!

  • Joris Ruigewaard

    Putting yourself out there makes you a target for critique. Sadly it turns into hating for some. I guess it has a lot to do with the medium internet as well.

    It is good to be critical, but we should show respect to those actually doing something and thereby improve themselves.

  • Giorgio

    “If someone says you can’t do something, it’s because he CAN’T do that”

    ;)

    Cheers from italy Eric!

  • Fermatgom

    Hi Eric,

    I agree with most of your article. They say “don’t feed the troll”.
    But I don’t agree with point nº1. It is not necessary to be a street photographer or even a photographer to criticize street photography. I can’t draw or paint but I can make a critic of a XV century portrait. It is not necessary to be a film director to make a critic of a movie.

    Keep on with your good work!!!

  • Philip Mcallister

    Keep up the good work Eric. I always enjoy your words with interest.

  • Tomas

    Keep positive and don’t feed the trolls!

  • Tasso

    I visit your blog every day and enjoy your photos and advise very much. Haters will always look for something to hate and it is from these people that we can learn the most. Listen, consider and move forward, that is all you can do. I for one am grateful for your site and hope you continue to do what you do.

  • Wilfredo Raguro

    Here is what I learned from the man himself…. “It’s how you can get hit and keep moving forward! That is how winning is done” – Rocky Balboa-

    This is a song for your haters…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg0p3SjzsdY

    http://www.PhotoStudious.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1420931094 Ollie Gapper

    What the hell is this post? Its awful, you hav no right to preach about heters or getting hate, you havent been getting enough hate for long enough to have a valid opinion on it or to start preaching. Jheez, you really think youre the god of hate and that you know it all, well you know what, I call for a boycott of your ‘blog’ and I demand a full refund for the time I have spent reading it!

    If you replied to one of my comments positively like that, Id smack you in the face, into the road whilst smashing your Leica through your teeth. Im ashamed to be Human.

    Yours sincerely,

    Poo

    LOL, but seriously man, Haters gon’ Hate, potatoes gon’ potate.

    • http://twitter.com/pookiepookieca poo

      Sad.

    • John Ellis

      You had me going for a minute. LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1420931094 Ollie Gapper

    Nice post though, must have been therapeutic to write! :)

  • onegreenfan

    very good . some wise man said that when you venture outside to win a goal,one must also consider losing.When one can lose and die .then he will know what living is about. so when you commit yourself to the ends , the means to that end is always near. what are we as man to be fulfilled?What are others fulfilled with? The complexity and diverseness of man is like a web.to be or change or not change goes with each breath.How one conducts himself in a room full of strangers online or off, should matter.but in nature a rock will wait for the wind or glacier to move it or not.certain things do not matter to rocks.Certain things should also not matter when you press the shutter. Click. i admire you for your braveness and sharing. Its gonna be alright..

    • onegreenfan

      so i went out last Sat. night. when going back to car i noticed a cook taking a breather outside. he obviously was inside the busy kitchen.it was 130 am.he was just standing looking at the back alley wall. I was 30 feet outside a barred gate. i put my small film cam.on the gate and took an alley shot of him with a flash.then i proceeded to keep walking . He stared to yell Hey! i kept walking ,then he came to the gate and still kept yelling to get my attention.i turned a corner and drove off. if i went back to explain things i probably would have a fired up cook who is good with a knife.film vs. mad cook..cook wins. My most dangerous picture to date. in the day time i mostly ask if I’m within striking distance.Some times not.Click

  • Jaimiepeeters

    Brohaim, I’ve been shooting for about 5 years now and only recently found myself growing a warm heart for street photography. I can honestly say that I am officially hooked. One of the things I have always done, is dive into the virtual realm of information to find everything there is to know about a subject. I have been a music producer for 10 years travelling world wide and all the knowledge I had I found online through communities. Now that I’m fully dedicated to photography I am again absorbing knowledge day in day out.. all your videos, blog, tweets etc are a great part of the information and motivation for my personal development. So your contribution is of great importance and, personally I feel, always fun and amusing. I have delt with haters (as a music producer) so often that it takes a strong person not to get depressed at some point. So I just hope that you will get as much strenght and encouragement out of all these replies to continue to be the positive talent that you are… love from Amsterdam. – Jaimie Peeters -

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=561027789 Adrian Boliston

    I would rather have haters than be ignored ;-)

  • Richard

    Great job on this article man! You have great photos and to me its great to see despite what others say you stay positive. Keep it up! you will have supporters as long as you keep going!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mahat-Papartassee/1069657946 Mahat Papartassee

    Agree with many people here… you have to be famous enough to be hated by number of people!

  • Richard

    As soon as you have haters, you know you are doing something right and heading the right direction. Like you said, you have been taking this more seriously, doing workshops and what not, so you are going to get more haters. They are just trolling. Just ignore it and know that there are more people who are supporting your great work.

  • Philipp Weimer

    A teacher once told me, these things are like poop coming down a river you swim in. You can either try to deal with it and end up getting dirty, or you get out of the way and let it pass.

  • http://twitter.com/TheRealBidong I am Bidong

    Haters are the one who generally have sour grapes and bad attitudes in general. They feel entitled and don’t like to see others succeed because they’re sitting in their own mundane failed existence. I would argue that the more haters one has, the more fans they have as well. So I say “bring on the haters.”

  • http://twitter.com/c_richardson Craig Richardson

    Advertisers measure the success of a campaign by the number of impressions. It doesn’t matter to them if it is a “positive” or “negative” impression, just so long as the message gets out. Furthermore, companies often times do not hear a peep from people who are satisfied with a product or service. With photography in particular the people who are out shooting do not have time to sit around and fight on the internet, these are the people who you need to reach! I guarantee you are already reaching a great number of these people, the trick is to get them involved.

  • Jordan D

    Great post! Thanks Erick!

  • John Ellis

    Great post. Your advice pertains to a larger audience than the internet. It pertains to life. Keep postive. Try and be compassionate to all, even haters and try not to take on their anger. It’s theirs let them keep it. Keep up the good work. I have learned a lot from your posts and more importantly enjoy reading them. You can tell you are passionate and it shows. You have a lot of knowledge to impart and it’s a free market. People can read reviews regarding your workshops and choose to take them or not. Thanks.

  • http://twitter.com/clear_moments Tina Cleary

    I think you know you have made it when you get lots of haters :)

  • Nabaz Anwar

    Maybe you are taking crappy pictures…
    Maybe you are not a great photographer…
    Maybe you are a hypocrite…
    Maybe you’re blog really sucks…

    BUT…

    At least you are doing something to spread the culture of street photography…
    At least some people do actually read your blog…
    And… at least you are not sitting infront of the TV, but are on the street…shooting.

    You see… you should love criticism… and ignore idiots. Some are probably just jealous because you have a Leica… hahahah….

    cheers friend…

    Nabaz Anwar

  • Chadxlyons

    I am from Seattle WA- I have been in the streets shooting for about 5 years and have compiled thousands of images, moments that would have been a lost memory the second they happened, never to be seen by a soul. It is people like us who document life as it happens. I can say with certainty that the majority of the shots we take would be cherished forever by the families of the subject being photographed. There is a bigger picture than what the majority of near sited haters see… Most don’t shoot to rob anyone of their dignity. Quite the opposite actually. The problem people may have with you is simple; you have found a way to turn your passion, and curiousity for people into something tangible… Most people will never do that, they will continue to be fleas in a jar… Conditioned to never leap high enought to get out by their own limitations…

  • http://www.leicaliker.com/ ewanglee

    You did the right thing Eric. Haters will hate even if there is no legitimate reason to hate. And I totally agree- the value you bring is information and community. Creating interest, enthusiasm and dialogue. So many people start off by going in the internet to research on subjects they are interested in. And you have provided a forum from which to learn more and do further research from. You round up information from all sources and put it in your blog. Just like you round up people so they can meet each other.

    “We do not hate as long as we attach a lesser value, but only when we attach an equal or greater value.” Frederich Nietzsche

  • http://www.friendlyimitationofwork.com/ Tobias W.

    I’m not going to bother reading the comments on this page. I can understand your sentiments Eric. I can follow most of what you wrote. However, I wouldn’t have bothered to make comparisons to Jesus and Ghandi.

    Here’s a quote you can make the next time: http://xkcd.com/386/

    Happens to me occasionally. It’s worse than suffering from this GAS you have blogging about. ;)

  • http://twitter.com/pookiepookieca poo

    Hate?
    No.

    Expect better?
    Yes.

    Contrary to what you say Erik, you preach. Read you posts, you tell people what to shoot, how to shoot, how not to shoot and why (read your “Best Settings” post, nothing but instructions on how they should shoot to do it “right”, full of bad advice.)

    You jump in peoples faces with your camera and flash two feet away from them, then proceed to say people are doing “far more worse” (your words) “businesspeople doing money-laundering and stealing hardworking tax dollars or people mugging innocent bystanders on the street”.
    You actually want to compare street photography with mugging and money-laundering, yet you seem surprised people might react by saying “people threatening to throw me in the middle of the road and get run over by cars, or people saying they would smash my Leica through my teeth”… You’re invading their “personal space”, for no other purpose than to satisfy your own interests.

    Walk up to people without your camera and stand in their faces two feet away… no, you wouldn’t do that because you feel a false superiority standing holding a camera that somehow makes you feel justified to harass random people like you do.

    Look at the true street photographers and study their work.
    Bruce Gilden is an exception to the “rules” of street photography, a blip that appeared in New York, and only really can he actually work as he does, everyone else who shoots as he does is just a poseur, shooting in the style of what one man has creates as his own. Look closely at every shot you’ve taken in his style, very one is a “Bruce Gilden style” shot, and will only be seen as that.
    A Poseur Mr. Kim.
    A Poseur.

    You have nothing original, nothing new, nothing… interesting. Hundreds and thousands of street shots that look like hundreds and thousands of other street photographers shots.

    Robert Capa, Henri Cartier Bresson, Robert Frank, Karl Hugo Sclmotz, Andre Kertesz…
    These people shot street photography and are famous because only they were doing it (along with their contemporaries).
    Today everyone is a street photographer, and there is nothing new, nothing fresh, nothing unique.
    You preach in your blog on “how to shoot street”, with detailed instructions of what to do.
    It’s all been done, all been said.
    You’re just repeating what anyone with a camera shooting street photographs already knows… Point, press button, hope for something nice, then print in black and white, repeat.

    Hate, Mr. Kim? No.

    Just quit preaching that you have the answers (and before you or your friends comment, read your posts… you “tell” people what to do, you preach).

    You are good at selling yourself, but I’m just not seeing any value in what you have to sell.

    But Hater… no.

    • C278673

      You are a sad person.

      • http://twitter.com/pookiepookieca poo

        Actually I say what I think, what you think of it is up to you.

        You use a five word sentence.

        • Raori

          Troll somewhere else

        • CIA

          Why are you saying it here?

    • http://jaredk.ca/ Jbot

      Ah! The token hater!

    • mattm

      Shame at the start of that rant you couldnt spell his name right – kind of negates the whole thing really. hey ho

      • pookiepookieca

        Gotcha matty.
        Good point.

    • Chanyung

      KGB your argument of Eric being unoriginal is very true, but the famous street photographers that you mentioned did not necessarily start off with there own distinct style. If you supposedly saw the first picture ever taken by Henri Cartier-Bresson you probably couldn’t distinguish that specific picture as a picture taken by him and his style. He enhanced his skill and BECAME the photographer that we know and love today. All those “famous” street photographers you named did not create street photography and Robert Capa did not even consider himself a street photographers he was a combat photographer and photojournalist. Eric in my knowledge has not told someone how to shot street photography. He in his Best Settings video says that those settings are the best for him.

  • Erik

    Thanks for sharing!

    On a side note, I guess you’re right about this applying to many arenas in life, still it seams like photography atracts alot of theese types. Reading the comments on more techy blogs is just a waste of time; grown-ups getting all worked up over how shitty the latest full frame camera must be. One would assume someone in the market for a FF would have the experience to concider the possibility of this really being more about the eye than the gear, even at the pinacle of photographic equipment. Guess they just don’t spend much time shooting.

    In the words of Kool Keith: Haters don’t hate, just motivate….

    • Karabouzoukli

      Don’t focus on the few people that hate you. You don’t go to the park and set your picnic down next to a pile of dog shit.

  • http://www.igcent.com/ pharrell1256

    That kid is a real boss!

  • Benjamin Quick

    Indeed Haters will always hate, but i heard this first from an amazing fellow i used to know during my graphic design days, Haters are just loving you in reverse, Haters will always try to spread their bile and malice, but well, wherever it’s spread, not all people are instantly going to hate on you, but jeesh, there are not many better ways to get your name out there!!

    Way i see it, if you have haters, you must be doing something right ;)

  • brunocandeias

    Very nice post Eric.. I totally agree with you! Good luck and keep the good work, as usual ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/fokkomuller Fokko Muller

    Well Eric, I shouldn’t spend so much of your precious time on ‘haters’. It’s part of life, I guess 50% of the people won’t like what you are doing.
    Focus on the other 50%. I think you are one of the most inspiring street photographers at this moment. I started 1,5 years ago with SP and I learned a lot of your blogs and tips.
    I personally don’t like flash-photos but I can see that you try different things and try to learn. There is nothing wrong with that. Find you’re own thing.
    What I admire from you is that you always react very kindly on bad reactions. I think that suits you very good.
    I rather ignore ‘haters’ and tend not to react on them. It’s a lot of negative energy. On the other hand, if it makes you feel better, give them your middle finger ;)

    keep up the good work!

    Regards, Fokko

  • http://www.cutebun.blogspot.com Cutebun

    I would just pretend haters are not there. If the amount of comments are little I might delete them. But at your fame, I doubt the comments can be deleted without them coming back and comment again. >_<

    • Pookiepookieca

      “But at your fame”….

      Careful Eric, this is what I meant.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/I6EOA4SAAIY2N6CWIHCFGFAAGQ Casey

    In my opinion, the only one thing worse than hate mail… is fan mail. It’s like giving a critique of a photo by saying “I hate this” or “I like this”. To be honest Eric, there are “things” that you need to work on if/as you continue with the street thing.

    Such as timely response… as one example. As well, your written word comes across differently than your spoken words (i.e. in person). Video is about halfway between…

    A recent example from your blog titled “Why Sharpness is a Bourgeoise Concept in Street Photography”. My thought was that you did a disservice to your readers. For sure most people with a camera are not able to readily distinguish the different aspects of quality in/between lenses, but that doesn’t mean that they should not understand that there is a difference and/or deepen their understanding as to when and how to utilize the difference.

    One trick that always worked for me (and it may not work for you) was to look at the comments without emotion… dig down to the underlying point that the writter was trying to express. If there is some truth there than act (now) on it. If not, then consider the source… it might be that the position of the source (of the individual who made the comments) has weight. If none of the above than try to work their point of view into a future project just to double check (and follow up if it was valid). You might even let them know that you will try it (and provide appropriate feedback).

    I guess you could also write an article about the problems of fan mail ;-)

    BTW, I believe that most hate mail contains incorrect information at some level. Such as the never ending threads concerning Bruce Gilden. He wasn’t the first to use flash and he will not be the last. Imagine the feeling of being approached by Arbus with her Mamiya C33 and potato masher flash… I would have loved to see the result if I had found myself in her viewfinder ;-)…

  • http://www.dannyst.com/ Danny St

    Haters who choose to remain anonymous really shouldn’t be taken seriously.

    • Poo

      But you’re posting anonymously….

      • AlexCoghe

        If you don’t know Danny Santos you’ve got problem, friend.

        • Pookiepookieca

          Interesting though about Danny Santos, he writes as a photographer, not an authority.
          And to him one says, thank you.

          • AlexCoghe

            Interesting would always know by those who get the comment, because a comment of an anonymous counts less of a person who puts his face. However, the credibility as a photographer also gives credibility to comment. Because if one photograph azaleas, can not claim to be the expert of the approach in the streets. It could be interesting knowing the photographer behind the comment. Admitting that behind it there is really a photographer…

          • Pookiepookieca

            As intriguing as your offer is Alex, everyone has already seen my work in exactly the same way I have seen everyone else’s, everyone shoots the same thing.
            Random people doing random things, shot anonymously (and/or in the face) and printed in black and white. This is street photography today.
            Look at other peoples portfolios objectively and you’ll see your own work, just with different faces. It’s been done before.

            The only “true” street photographers working today are the likes of Silva, Hetherington, Zoriah, Adams, Natcheway, Capa et al…

            Eric praised the virtues and wonders of his M9 when he first got it, a thing of beauty. But times they change…

            Now Eric only shoots film, with the ubiquitous Leica, only film, that’s how the “serious” street shooters work…. film.
            Eric fell for the “you gotta shoot film if you wanna be serious” stories that he was hearing in his travels, and he fell hard. He actually says his “backup camera” is his $9K Leica M9, now please, it’s his backup camera. He has bought into the clique that only amateurs shoot digital street photography, yet he scans his work into a computer to work on or post his analogue work, as though his digital photographs are inferior.
            Bresson shot on film because that’s what there was, and he shot in black and white for the same reason. Do you really think he would have shot film if there was digital when he started? The top technology other than black and white film that was available at the time for him to use was the sketch book, but no one is saying he should have stuck to drawing…..

            Haters hate, true, and there are a lot of you.

            The true haters are those who only want to believe nothing can change.

            Only film.
            Only Leica.
            Only black and white.
            Don’t dis Eric.

            Eric has potential, true, but Eric is a beginner but Eric doesn’t like to say it.
            Read up on your contemporaries Eric, those shooters sharing their knowledge to “the masses”.

            They talk about how they work, their mistakes.
            They never say “do this” and they never say something is wrong (remember the “turn off your LCD, chimping is a horrible habit” or “shoot compressed, you will never blow up a street photograph to ridiculous proportions”)…

            Share your insight, share your observations, share your ideas, but never say anything is wrong, and never say “this is how you do it”.

            This is photography, there is no wrong.

          • AlexCoghe

            Uhm…no. I don’t think that seen the work of someone is seeing the work of everyone. Sorry, but i was talkin’ about the fact that a comment without a face doesn’t have a great value. Why if you are a great photographer don’t support your critique through your work? Only this is my question. I am not interested in your second part of your answer, that is only another attack to EK, and this is boring.

            Take a blog for what is. Relativize this, I think that should be clear that every blog is not a statement of truth but only a personal opinion. You have to write it every time?

            But the point is: if you don’t like why follow any post here? When i don’t like a thing I get bored quickly…and I return to my life.

          • pookiepookieca

            Sadly Alex, Eric doesn’t write as his personal opinion, he preaches his way. His lists of what to do and not do, these are not his opinions and are not presented as such. He makes statements that he has “the” way, “the” settings “the” answers.
            Too many people new to street shooting are looking upon him as some authority, and he is happy to left them, but many of his ideas are simply wrong and, as people follow his directives, they will most certainly get frustrated, and, at the worst, stop shooting.
            That is why some of his “truths” need to be… corrected.
            Are you going to tell me that you only shoot compressed because you won’t be enlarging your Street shots at some point in the future beyond printer size? That’s simple foolish advice to give to anyone. And that is simply one example.
            Eric is trying, I have always said so, but much of what he preaches isn’t necessarily good advice, but Eric doesn’t say so.

          • AlexCoghe

            I can understand your point, but sorry i don’t understand how long must go on the controversy. A blog is only a blog, written by persons with their point of view, their faults and virtues. A blog is not a bible. In my blog indeed i’ve written a disclaimer: “Please note: in this blog there are tips and advices on photography. We are a blog specialized in street photography and it is normal also include technical tips. But, in fact, are just tips. Not rules. No claim on our part to impose a universal method because it does not exist.
            There is not even a perfect camera, whether analog or digital. The cameras are just tools. There may be a perfect camera for the way you take pictures.
            Not rules in this blog, only tips matured on the experience of photographers who write here. This site is a place to talk about culture of photography and a place of exchange of ideas. Please feel free to comment the posts and propose topics. We will thank you. This space is also yours. Together with you this blog can only enhance.”

            If someone takes the tips in a blog, any blog like a bible, there is a problem.
            Each of us can write a blog. Naturally there will be personalism. It is normal, i think. I am sure that also Eric doesn’t think the his truth is THE TRUTH.

            But I am not a lawyer of Eric. Furthermore we are very different, in the approach, in the way of seeing so much things about street photography and photography in general. And also like bloggers.

            But I see a certain persistence and I think you can not deny. To me it seems wasted energy, i would prefer create my blog and try to explain my point of view. Knowing well that my recipe is fine for me, for the few and not for everyone.

            Perhaps a more constructive approach would be more useful. For all.

            And now i think that I will not repeat as yet, because like i said, when I’m bored I prefer to go to do something more stimulating.

          • Guest

            HCB actually shot b&w because he preferred the look.

          • mattm

            If Eric buys an M9 the decides he prefers to try film thats fine. Its all about trying the options.
            I have a Fuji X100 but wanted to try film so I now have a cheap Yashica Minister III from ebay.

          • Ramones

            He doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing yet professes to be the mouthpiece of “street photography”. That’s what is so fucking annoying.

  • http://www.qmungousphoto.com/ Qmungous

    hmm, where did all the haters go? keep it up EK!

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  • Guest

    You have an interesting blog, and I like your photography. And btw, you are cute too – really nice smile :-)

  • Donkey

    NO…nobody hates you. A commenter has said that maybe 50 % doesn’t like what you are doing. No, i think that won’t be more than 5%. Actually the whole problem is about this minuscule minority.
    You know Mr Kim, these are the people for whom photography is a religion and the masters (whom you and your peers trivialize every now and then) are the apostles. These people have learned photography the rigorous way and know what it needs to make a Magnum photographer, what it needs to make a World Press Photo winner.
    These people will have no problem if you build a large community of followers. No problem if you impress your followers with your and your peers works. But when you drag in the masters and talk in a way as if you belong to their class…these people find it difficult to remain silent.
    Finally, these people doesn’t hate you…..they pity you from the core of their heart.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/ilparm/ Ilparm

    I am a little surprised to see this post as the criticism against you has been going on for a while. I thought you would be way over it by now, Eric.

    As you know, I have followed your work and projects since The Gutter days -my, was I making some crappy pictures back then- and I am glad to see you have made it to a point where you can do street photography full-time and enjoy every bit of it. I have always considered you a cool guy with a honest passion and enthusiasm for street photography. It makes perfect sense that you followed this path as it was the one that offered you the best shot at doing what you love. So far, you have succeeded at that. Having said that, I would be a bad friend if I did not tell you that maybe some of the criticism you have received is worthy of a serious thought or two.

    It is all about priorities. What is important for each of us. Why are we doing this.

    For me, it is legacy. When all is said and done, when it is time to hang the camera and the shoes, I want to leave behind a large body of work that will be a mandatory point of reference for its quality and relevance, at least in my country or hometown. I have no particular interest in making money off this or in becoming into some sort of internet celebrity. Those might be nice things to have -money in particular :o) – but first and foremost, I want to be able to create great, memorable images.

    So, just by looking at the road you have taken -the content of your blog- one would deduce that your priorities are different. It gives the impression you were aiming for popularity, sponsoring, a way to cash in on your hobby and hang out with your friends. I see no artistic or personal pursuit, just promotion and self-promotion for the sake of it. While there is nothing wrong with that, it just comes off as extremely shallow to those of us who have something more personal invested in this.

    You are young and I have no doubt that over time you will eventually reevaluate your priorities and your projects will reflect on this accordingly. Good luck.

    http://ilparm.tumblr.com/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/ilparm/

    • pookiepookieca

      Very interesting points.

    • Donkey

      Correct

    • mgonline

      delete

    • http://twitter.com/verashni Verashni Pillay

      “a way to cash in on your hobby and hang out with your friends” … I’m sorry, I’m confused. Why is it wrong to try to make a living out of what you love doing? Or are you such a precious artiste that anyone trying to do their art as a living equates to selling out? It sounds like you’re just a bit jealous that your old friend has gone on to achieve a certain status doing what he loves, and being able to do it fulltime.

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/ilparm/ Ilparm

        Quote: “I’m sorry, I’m confused. Why is it wrong to try to make a living out of what you love doing?”

        I explicitly said just two lines after what you quote: “there is nothing wrong with that, it just comes off as extremely shallow” so I am affraid you are missreading.

        Quote: “Or are you such a precious artiste that anyone trying to do their art as a living equates to selling out?”

        Well first, I am not an artist and have never labeled myself anywhere as one so this is pretty much your assumption. At some point I talked about “an artistic or personal pursuit” because the photographers I like and appreciate all seem to be driven by either or both of them.

        My grandfather and his brother were photographers during the golden age of mexican cinema. When I was little I found their photos and they inspired me and motivated to follow their footsteps and keep the family tradition. I want to inspire that same feeling in whoever finds my crap once I am dead and that is why my priority is not to reach 1000 likes in facebook, but make the best photographs possible. So as you can see, it is strictly a personal pursuit for me.

        Quote: “It sounds like you’re just a bit jealous that your old friend has gone on to achieve a certain status doing what he loves, and being able to do it fulltime”.

        Sorry, but the position and status Eric currently holds in the street photography world is not something I ever wanted for myself and the way I have conducted my online projects proves that. It just never was my aspiration to be popular or to make money off others’ enthusiasm for photography. I would like to be in exhibitions and have people buying my prints and books. The guys who can do that are the ones I actually envy. I am jealous of great photographers. I am an aspiring photographer, not an aspiring merchant nor an aspiring social media personality.

        • Donkey

          What a reply!!! Amazing

  • Dan

    Eric, you are so right. Unfortunately the world have become a place where vary few people like to see others succeed. Running a blog/site is putting you directly in the way of those people. I found that believing in yourself and to trust that there really are people out there who will appreciate what you are doing helps.
    Anyway just do it to better yourself and the rest will follow,- keep believing!

    http://streamlightphotography.blogspot.com

  • http://www.knikmanav.nl/ Hans

    good story Eric. Haters will always be there (like using the dislike button on 500px – usually without comment of course) I just are ignoring those people nowadays. Tried to discuss with some but that usually ends in silly arguments.

    Happy photography!

  • Shin Young

    It’s sad that some people feel the need to bring down other people. I think you’re doing an incredibly nice job telling everybody what you know about street photography. Surely anybody who doesn’t like it has the choice to find somebody that they do. You’re not forcing them to read your blog. One of the arguments you mentioned is one I dislike a lot and that is when people say “you’re too new to this to be able to teach”. It’s usually said by people who are unwilling to look beyond what they know. Sometimes it’s worse, sometimes it’s better, but at least have a look. Some others might not, but I’m proud to be a fellow Asian!

  • Steve

    I’ve enjoyed reading this blog. Some of the haters come across as being jealous, others are obviously just trying to upset people and get a reaction. It’s sad but some people have nothing better to do. You have to feel sorry for them. Some of the haters comments make me laugh, they twist things and make things up, they could probably get a well paid journalists job:)

    I’ve nothing against people making critical comments and I can be quite negative and not like the way people do things but some people think they know everything and have no respect for peoples feelings. They feel safe making rude and obnoxious comments on the internet but they wouldn’t get very far behaving the same way in the real world.

  • Guest

    뒤에서 불평하지 말고, 뒤에서 뒷다마 까지 말고, 앞에 나와서 말을 하라고요…능력이 되면, 블로그도 운영하면서 사람들에게 뭔가 말을 하던가. 그리고, 뭔가 더 큰 것을 기대한다면, 지금 말하는 불평보다 더 큰 것을 말하라고요. 어차피 자신들도 여기서 글을 읽으면서 뭔가 배워가면서, 뭘 그리 말이 많소. 세상에 완벽한 지식을 전달해주는 사람이 있긴 했나? Erick이 뭐라 말하든, 그냥 이 사람은 이렇게 생각하는구나 라고 생각하고 넘어가면 될 일이고, 읽기 싫으면 읽지 않으면 될일이지 뭐 그리 할 말이 많소…한국이나 미국이나 남의 뒷다마 까는 것은 어디나 마찬가지겠지만, 좀 짜증나네.

    • Guest

      아. 그리고, 개인적으로 내가 Erick을 모르니, 이 사람이 어떻다라는 말을 하지는 않겠소. 유튜브에 올린 동영상을 보면, 사실 맘에 드는 것도 있고, 맘에 안드는 것도 있소. 하지만, 인터넷상에서 찾고자 하는 것은 원하는 정보지, 그 사람의 신상명세나 그 사람이 얼마나 잘났나가 아니라오. 내가 이렇게 한글로 글을 쓰면, 몇몇 사람들은 읽지 못해서 그냥 지나칠 것이고, 나의 생각도 알지 못할 것이오. 하지만, 이것이 내가 표현할 수 있는 가장 최선의 방법이라 생각하고 한글로 적은 유일한 글이란 것을 안다면, 나의 글을 읽고자 하는 사람은 어떻게든 읽을 것이고, 읽기 싫어하는 사람은 그냥 지나칠 것이요. 인터넷에 올린 글은 그정도의 가치라는 것을 모르나? 그렇게 완벽하고 정확한 정보를 알고 싶다면, 공부를 하란말이다. 그리고, 읽고서 기분나쁘고 짜증난다면, 읽지를 말란 말이다. 제발 마녀사냥하듯 뒤에서 욕하지 말고.

  • Thomas

    hmmm,

    i believe you are just giving these people the platform they wanted, …

    I see many things i dont like @ your posts, but this makes me realize just this,
    i learn about myself, the so called “haters” could learn about themselves if they
    would learn to look into the mirror you are presenting them.

    Just do your work, dont bother about others too much.

    Ever wondered how they know exactly about your stuff, they read all of it !!!
    So call them a different form of your fans, without you they had nothing to define themselves :-)

    Thomas

    • Ramones

      It’s very easy to put those that disagree with you in a special little box called “haters”. That way they can’t burst your little bubble.

  • http://www.stueganblog.tumblr.com stu egan

    Hey Eric, enjoyed reading this, and admire your attitude.

    I have to admit when I first came across your blog I was a bit skeptical about a few things (the t-shirts are still definitely not for me!) but over time whenever I’ve dropped by I’ve enjoyed articles, interviews, comment threads and all sorts of other stuff – and that’s probably because it’s rare to visit a photography blog where the energy and personality of the blogger spreads throughout the site so much, and attracts a community as a result.

    I’m not really that into the current fad for videos of people shooting in the streets, but no-one’s holding a gun to my head to make me watch them! I’ve enjoyed quite a few I’ve seen here though – I think your enthusiasm and attitude clearly inspires a lot of people and that’s something I enjoy watching in the videos you post. Ultimately though if people do disagree with the content (be it your shooting style, or whatever) they’re free to press stop and offer constructive comments. If only the world was that simple, though! After reading this post yesterday I checked out some of the comments you got on YouTube and couldn’t believe the shit you take. I know comment threads over there almost always descend rapidly into abuse, but no-one deserves that. You’re clearly a decent bloke and I hope that the ignorant comments don’t stop you from doing what you’re doing.

    Cheers,
    Stu

  • http://bit.ly/y8aTNF Bike Motor

    No sure it is that right debate here, I guess that number of haters is increasing on your blog because the most of the time, you are not talking about photography or street photography but about yourself. this topic is one of the numerous examples. Who cares if what you are feeling and if you piss off more people in your previous job..etc
    I guess that many of us would like to see more of street photography discussion that anything about yourself

    • John Kim

      Yes, personally I would like to see more street photos and discussion here like what Eric did in the beginning. Nobody knows everything, but I like what Eric did for the community and I appreciate that.

      • http://erickimphotography.com/blog Eric Kim

        Thanks for the comments John – will get more great work featured here! :)

        • John Kim

          Yeah, that’s I really want from your blog as other streettogs do, Eric!
          I enjoyed to watch whenever you tried different things (such as using films, flash and so on ) and ideas! I love your pure passion about what you are doing and learned many things here. Maybe it’s time to think that what is the uniqueness & identity of your blog at this moment. I am sure that you have your own roles and uniquness that you brang to the community.

          Do what you love.
          Love what you do.

          Cheers, Eric! :)

  • SJP-GLASGOW-UK

    Regardless of what anyone says, photography is subjective, what is interesting/good to one is not to another. This is even more so in a subject as random and un-plan-able as street photography. It should matter only to You Eric if you like your photos.

    Regardless of my opinion on your photos, what you have achieved; A successful blog, that even ‘haters’ repeatedly come back to and read thoroughly so they can di-sect your posts. Worldwide workshops. And basically, you have built a name for yourself – something that takes much effort, pasion, energy and time. There may have been some amount of luck in this, right-time-right-place, whatever. This doesn’t escape the fact that most of these ‘haters’ would love to be doing what you are doing – but would rather put their efforts in to being dismissive, disrespectful and just downright negative. It is entirely these traits in their personality that has prevented them, and will continue to prevent them from achieving what you have achieved.

    As it happens, like a lot of artists I like and have an interest in, I don’t like all your work – BUT, I like most, and what I don’t – I see as an opportunity to see things in a different light. Keep up the good work, keep sharing – something the’haters’ don’t, and keep the enthusiasm and positivity. I love it!

    S

  • Michelle

    Ignore them. They are just jealous.

    I really admire what you are doing with your life and hope to meet you someday.

  • http://jtlphotography.zenfolio.com/ JTL

    For anyone into street shooting, see if you can find Scott Kelby’s two training videos with Jay Maisel (or just subscribe to his site). You’ll learn so much about street photography that you won’t believe it. And Maisel shoots with D3 / 70-300 combo on one video and a D3S / 28-300 on the other. There goes Leica’s claim to uniqueness. (Nothing against Leicas, btw, wonderful cameras for what they do) but Maisel is getting great street shots with a camera/lens combo which is only slightly smaller than a car.

  • MacMook

    I believe the measure of your success cannot be realized externally. Whether it’s praise from fans or criticism from non-fans is irrelevant. Ignore the fringes of both. Why some people feel the necessity to gush or flame is solely an exercise in their ego. It has little to do with you.

    To misappropriate a quote out of context from T. Jefferson “It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg”.

    I suspect the majority of your readers are knowledgeable centrists. We read a lot about specific characteristics and styles of photography in hopes of gleaning an idea that makes sense for our circumstances. But everything written is not gospel nor the work of the devil incarnate. Intelligent readers in any milieu sift information carefully, but are willing to consider ideas outside of their comfort zone.

    I have read your blog intermittently, and where your interests intersect mine I have watched your videos. I tend to ignore the means, method or tone of delivery while looking for those useful perspectives that I may have otherwise overlooked.

    Forgive my narrow viewpoint, but if that is not the intent of someone reading your blog, why are they wasting their time?

    • MacMook

      p.s. I’m not sure where you pinched the last image. It is labelled “haterwashington” – it is actually an image of Lord Nelson.

  • Dave

    I find it so interesting that people who don’t like you would spend so much energy telling you about it.

    • Donkey

      They do so because they think whatever is happening in the name of Street Photography is not correct. These comments are for everyone reading this post, not only for Mr. Kim.
      There may be a counter argument that if some one wants to protest he may do so in his own blog. But tell me, if you see something happening at a street corner and you think it is wrong, will you protest on the spot or will you go somewhere else to protest.

  • Corylum

    eric. i think a key point is both the photographic dialogues and the word dialogues u create. to learn is a two edged sword, on one end it is imperative to be receptive to criticism , the other is the vertical learning curve. i think many folks out there in viewer/internet-land have some jealousy for your quick social network/worldly status. relax, go out and make photographs. share good energy. emphasis on positive energy. we all need to grow together, learn together, share knowledge. here is my photographs here http://www.corylumphoto.com/ cc KGB

  • Disraeli Demon

    I’ve commented a few times on these pages, Eric, but I’ve never said what a useful resource I’ve found your blog to be; I’ve always taken it as you sharing the stuff you’re finding out rather than preaching, and I certainly enjoy your enthusiasm for what you do. I like the fact that you bring together opinions and viewpoints from elsewhere. I also like the fact that you’re so open about changing your mind over time as you learn more.

    Myself, I’ve been pootling about on the edges of Street Photography for over twenty years, and I’ve found this blog to be the most helpful resource in terms of straightforwardly examining what the hootin’ heck you actually do when you’re out on the street with a camera in your hand. For a long while I’d been in a “stuck” phase, and some of the tips you’ve posted have really helped me to break out of that.

    Some of the things you post I agree with, others not. Some of your technique tips have sounded daft to me until I tried them and then I found they worked :-) Photography is an art, not a science – different things will always suit different people, and even within an umbrella term like “Street Photography” everyone will be trying to do something slightly different anyway. As with all resources – other blogs, Flickr, gallery exhibitions, books – I take what I think will be useful, leave what I don’t.

    Thanks for your hard work so far.

  • Ask_B

    I believe all bloggers will get this kind of repsonse when they reach a certain number of readers. I don’t follow your blog frequently simply because I’m not into street photography, but I do read many photography blogs on a more or less daily basis. Depending on what kind of feedback you are getting – is it just personal or could some of it be constructive? If not I’d just ignore it. I know I wouldn’t myself, but then I’m not blogging either:-) I’m not sure it is a troll behind every “hate-mail”.

  • http://flickr.com/eiersalat Tim Esche

    wow so many full on bullshit comments on here. get the fuck out. i do really enjoy watching eric grow and he is a talented upstanding dude in my book.

  • Tom B

    Erik:

    You are teaching and sharing your thoughts and insights. FOR FREE, at that. I have nothing but gratitude for what you do, I’ve learned a lot. Do I agree with everything you’ve wrote? Of course not! I don’t agree with everything that *I* write/say. But that is the beauty of this public discourse/blogging/Internet – we can all discuss ideas. Of course, haters are gonna hate…

    All the best!

    Tom

    • Tomb

      Of course, I gotta throw in my own hate:

      1)Must you
      2)Make a numbered list
      3)Out of everything?

      • John Vincent Torres

        Blogging 101:

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  • Shane Fage

    The problem with street photography is actually trying to get the shot… with all the other photographers heads in the way.

    “I mean… there are just so many of them.”

  • pookiepookieca

    Given that there are numerous Erik Kim lovers here, a very simple question.

    What has he said, what advice has he given that is actually his?

    There is much bad advice, bad ideas etc, but I have yet to see anything written by Eric that is a “new” idea.
    All of his “advice” appears on every “teachers” blog/site etc.

    I see nothing that makes Eric Kim unique in the world of Street Photography.

    Post after post of his listing his do’s and don’t do’s, but all of them are well worn lists.

    Please, show something he’s said in any of his posts that is truly “his”, not just another re-hashing from every other Street Photographer out there.

    btw, no need to resort to the language that many of you have lowered yourselves to, it just reflects poorly on Eric.

    • Donkey

      “What has he said, what advice has he given that is actually his?”

      Nothing…just nothing.

      “There is much bad advice, bad ideas etc, but I have yet to see anything written by Eric that is a “new” idea.
      All of his “advice” appears on every “teachers” blog/site etc.”

      Right.

      “I see nothing that makes Eric Kim unique in the world of Street Photography ”

      I strongly disagree.
      He mixes marbles with gems and presents those in such a way that any newcomer to street photography will accept a marble for a gem . That is his uniqueness.
      He will create a generation of photographers that will have no sense of what is good or bad. That is his uniqueness.

      • http://erickimphotography.com/blog Eric Kim

        Dear Donkey,

        First of all, nothing I say is truly “original” in the sense that everything I have learned is based off of what I have learned in books, blogs, and from my studies in sociology. Also a lot of what I learn is through my personal experience shooting on the streets and interacting with people.

        I don’t believe that knowledge is something that is always 100% unique- but that’s what makes it valuable- because we can spread the love of knowledge with one another to help.

        Is there anything wrong with that?

        • Donkey

          There is nothing wrong as long as you share it with your friends or with others where there is no monetary consideration. But if you are charging people (your workshops are not free) then it is.
          Why ?
          Because you are an unqualified teacher.
          How?
          You have read some books but you have not taken any test. Who will certify how much you know?
          Have you faced any interview board till date ?
          If you consider yourself proficient enough to become a teacher why not apply for a post of instructor/lecturer in a authorised photography institution and see for yourself what those people have to say.
          You call yourself a sociologist. This is again an exaggeration. Should you call your self a sociologist just by studying sociology at the undergraduate level. Go back to your Uni and ask your professors.
          Even if i take for granted you are a sociologist – as a sociologist don’t you understand how dangerous a unqualified teacher can be for society.
          Why do Governments in every civilized countries make so many rules and regulations regarding education ?
          Do you think just because you have studied in school you can construct a building and start a school ? The Education Department will handover your ass to you .
          You are a 25 year old bachelor, you won’t understand. But ask any middleaged man or woman how they will feel if they know their children are in the hands of unqualified teachers.
          I really feel sorry for the students of your workshops . Although they are biologically grown up considering their photographic proficiency, they are nothing but children. I have seen your london video. Some of them even have problem operating the camera.
          And you are teaching them Street Photography…..you are showing them photographs of yours and Bruce Gilden bunched together.
          God will not forgive you Mr Kim.
          There is still time…..do some introspection.

          • Alexey

            Donkey,

            During my years at the Uni (I studied Economics), very often the best lecturers were the professionals from the industry, not the professors. Business professionals didn’t have any teaching certificates/diplomas, yet many of them shared such useful advice, that sometimes I felt that I would love to pay them just so they would share their wisdom with me.

            Were those professional original in their ideas? No.
            Were their ideas unique? No.
            Were all of their pieces of advice good? No.

            But I learned some information that was new and useful to me, even though it was not original or unique. Why was it so life changing to me then? Because it is important to know what you don’t know. And I don’t care whether it is Bill Gates or regular Joe who gives that knowledge.

            I am not trying to say that Mr Kim’s workshops are that great, cause neither have I taken one nor am I going to (I am not a photographer, I am just like street photographs and this is one the web sites I visit). But it’s a free market: as long as someone is satisfied with quality and wants to buy it and another one wants to sell it’s all good.

          • Donkey

            Blasphemy has been stopped. I won’t show up anymore.

            Btw, if you are not a photographer then shut up. Photography is not FMCG ( Fast Moving Consumer Good )

          • Alexey

            Oh no, baby come back! :)

            Btw, if you are such an expert street photographer then go out and shoot. Don’t be a keyboard jockey. That’s advice from a non-photographer to a photographer like you :)

  • Jrcombo70

    You put too sensitive issues. Haters will keep hating you and likers will like you. You cannot control them. If you do something to solve that matter, it’s going to be worse. Do what you like, but simply think why they say like that. One of my friend told me this. “when you think of yourself and consider you as an adult, you are still a kid. But when you consider you as a kid, you have more room for improvement. So I am sill a kid.” my friend is 42years old.

  • http://profiles.google.com/pantsmclee Nancy Lee

    I’ve always wondered about these people who insist on hanging out in the comment sections of blogs they purportedly “hate.” They spit such venom and negativity, and get overheated with their own self-righteousness and indignance. But isn’t this akin to going to the same bar night after night, and talking loudly about how you can’t stand the music, the people, the beer? Which begs the question: why do you keep showing up?! I’m sure there are more photography websites on the internet than there are bars in most cities, so hey, why not cross town and go hang out somewhere where you can share insights with like minds? Why aggravate yourself at the one place you don’t enjoy? I mean, honestly, if you’re so hot and bothered by a blogger’s approach, start your own blog and do it your way. As always in life, it’s much easier to cross your arms and criticize than roll up your sleeves and act.

    Eric, I suspect that there are many people like me who deeply appreciate that you do what you do, but haven’t taken the time to say so. So, thank you. I realize that you don’t have to spend the time it takes to write these posts, share your experiences, create a dialogue, and that you could easily be enjoying shooting and talking photography without the grief of naysayers. But the fact that you continue to do so, and in the face of negativity that would drive most people to give up, demonstrates your strength and generosity. Thank you.

    • Donkey

      “Which begs the question: why do you keep showing up?! ”

      Because what’s going on here is blasphemy….absolute blasphemy. If we don’t show up and spit venom then we shall not be rendering service to mankind. Stop blasphemy, we shall stop showing up.

  • John Vincent Torres

    It’s so funny you wrote this, because I just noticed how many haters you have while browsing the comments of the “GAS” article you wrote. What was interesting to me was how many people (like KGB) seem to follow you for the sake of trolling. Like, hating on you is a daily priority for them.

    You should direct all your trolls and haters to Thomas Leuthard’s Flickr and G+ page. That guy actually deserves it.

    • pookiepookieca

      It’s interesting John Vincent Torres isn’t it that “haters” hate, yet I have consistently said that Eric simply needs to stop “preaching” that he knows all and that his way is best. No hate there.

      Eric and those here crying “haters” seem to be happy to throw labels on anyone not bowing to that that is Eric.

      If you were to read rather than react you would see that Eric has placed himself as “source” of how-to-shoot-street-photography, yet, at this point in his “career”, he is not a source, he simply is a repeater of information.

      Fanboys will love Eric no matter what he does or says, such is the nature of things.

      I wrote to Eric and mentioned simply that he could announce to all here that “he has found the true way”, and decide to shoot only with the Polaroid z340, a bold move indeed.
      Within a few hours he would be extolled as a true genius of forward thinking and his followers would demand to know his settings and secrets of using this new wonder camera.
      Of course there would be the quick discussion that you need to be shooting with a Polaroid sx-70 if you want to be taken seriously, and the z340 would quickly be demoted to backup status.

      Hate is a dangerous tag to apply, as most of you pronouncing haters as the evil need to look at your own posts and read the “hate” that they contain.

      I won’t even comment on your “You should direct all your trolls and haters to Thomas Leuthard’s Flickr and G+ page. That guy actually deserves it.”, as It speaks for itself.

      Pot.
      Kettle.

      • http://erickimphotography.com/blog Eric Kim

        Dear Kim,

        I am sorry if you feel that I am being preachy- but that is not what I want to get across. Everything I mention in this blog is my personal opinion– which should be taken with a grain of salt. I like to give suggestions/advice/tips for people who are trying to find their own way in street photography (based on my past mistakes) but no way are there hard-set “rules” in photography.

        And with information, everything has already been said before! Is there anything wrong with sharing information that is useful with the community?

        • pookiepookieca

          Hi Eric.

          Please re-read your posts;

          - The “Best Settings” and How to Use The Leica M9 for Street Photography

          and

          - 10 Tips on How to Cure Yourself of GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome)

          What you have written in those are “do this and don’t do this” posts.

          While I appreciate your interest in “suggestions/advice/tips for people who are trying to find their own way in street photography”, those aren’t written as”suggestions/advice/tips”, they are written as specific instructions.

          Telling people to shoot compressed (while reading your reasoning) is a poor suggestion, and one that if you are following your own advice, may very well come back to bite you. For you to decide for people to follow that advice as “good” means that (as I’m sure you yourself have run into) if you shoot a “eureka” picture (everyone has them) that you then take to be enlarged into a 20×30 for example to display proudly, you will be very unhappy with the result, and that “eureka” picture is now destined to remain an 8×10 or web only picture.
          At the least, you should have recommended shooting RAW+JPG, by doing so, all bases are covered. As far as drive space etc, every shooter needs to delete shots that simply didn’t work, and decide to keep only their best. As I’m very sure you know, people should only keep what they consider their best work, keeping the second or third choices means keeping those that aren’t good enough. An extra media card and spare battery are sufficiently cheap enough to be within most peoples finances these days.

          As I have said, offer your observations, successes and mistakes, you have a way with words no question, but, if you look at your street photography contemporaries, or any range of other photographers, you’ll quickly see that they offer help, not “I say so” rules.

          You’re on the right track, but humility is a good trait to have, ego, not so much.

          As Aaron Green says (above), stop spouting Leica as the wonder camera no serious street photographer can be caught without if they are to be taken seriously, or the fact that you use your M9 as a backup.

          If you’re seriously wanting to talk about street photography, you need to understand that most people (including yourself perhaps) also shoot other things as well, and a DSLR might very well be the best all-round choice, or best financial choice.
          For the cost of your M9 alone, people can buy a very good camera and a few very nice lenses that will serve them in all types of shooting.
          Leica’s are very nice, but they tend to attract the same people who by expensive import cars… nice, but my Ford will get me to the same place as you at the same time, and I can still afford dinner.

          I don’t read that you have “haters” Eric, I read people who find your approach “harassing”, and your postings as “elitist” or “egotistical” (again, read how you TELL people what to do). I don’t “hate” you Eric, I’m trying to “tough love” you into doing what you do, without the preaching.

          This post, while not your intention, shows your “sore spot” regarding your position in the world of Street Photography, your exposure has surpassed your experience.

          You have a number of rather well known street photographers following your experiences, those with decades more experience, but if you look at their sites, they down-play themselves and their work, and they all understand: it’s not about them, it’s about the work.

          Hope this helps a bit.

          (I would have sent you this as an email, but you seem to want it written here).

    • Ramones

      oooohhhhh everybody, John Vincent Torres knows who deserves criticism and who doesn’t. Let’s all listen to him! He must be one of those “haters”. LOL

  • http://www.yomadic.com/ Nate Robert

    Awesome! More than 100 comments. That’s some social proof right there.

    Anyone with popularity attracts haters.

    Eric is a one of the good guys, in my books.

    • Ramones

      I’m not doubting that he’s a good guy. He just needs to learn his place. When he starts dictating things about “Street Photography” and tries to speak for those of us who have been doing it a hell of a longer than him, it becomes quite annoying.

      • pookiepookieca

        Exactly. For someone who studied sociology, you’d think he would have some understanding of how his posts might be received, given his “greenness” in the field.

  • Guest

    I can’t turn off my laptop without visiting your blog. Your blog is the best blog of street photo. Rich information and helpful tips and technique.

    Cheer up, Erik !

  • http://www.facebook.com/goodtimesaaron Aaron Green

    I first came to this blog via Yanidel (easily one of the best street photographers around today) and for a while thought of this place as great resource. However, lately I find myself rolling my eyes when I come here.

    It’s sort of weird to tell others that gear doesn’t or shouldn’t matter when everyone “in the scene” is well aware that you have not one, but two Leicas. And why is everyone aware of this fact? Golly, I dunno, but it *could* be that it’s because you constantly mention it. This is akin to a rich person saying that “money doesn’t matter” while going on and on about the 7 figures they’re pulling in–if gear doesn’t matter, then why not sell that back-up M9 to someone who will appreciate it? Of course you won’t, though, because you like the cultural cachet that the Leica brand gives you. But admitting that would be at odds with your image as a “deep, spiritual” street photographer, searching for “deep truths” or whatever. But, and this is just, like, my opinion and everything, but those “deep truths” might prove to be elusive when you’re staging your shots.

    Speaking of your shooting style, why extol the smaller, more discrete nature of Leicas for street shooting when you just end up shoving your camera in people’s faces? Seriously, WTF? Does that make sense to anyone? If you want to be unobtrusive and have a smaller camera than a DSLR, then BE unobtrusive.

    Saying you’re not a hypocrite is a bit of a stretch when you’re so wildly inconsistent. Even in this post you say you’re a “relatively new” when it comes to street shooting, but then later you say that you’re not “completely new.” Um, okay. “Sharpness and bokeh are bourgeois concepts” is just silly nonsense. Is color “bourgeois”? Is 20/20 vision “bourgeois”? These platitudes just come across as complete bullshit coming from a guy who spent several thousand on an M9 and then ends up using said M9 as a “back up.” “Yeah, bro. I got two jets and use one as a ‘back-up’ to this other old-school jet that I use as my main form of transport. But man, personal aviation is so ‘bourgeois.’”

    And the thing is, I agree that photographers have gone overboard with pixel-peeping and OMG ISO PERFORMANCE and OMG HOW SHARP IS THE LENSE OPENED UP? but I wonder if you really think this or if it’s just part of your “brand”? And comparing yourself to Jesus? LOL okay. Well, have no fear Chosen One, you will eventually rise after your crucifixion.

    Stay strong, Messiah!

    • pookiepookieca

      Well… for one, I love it.
      Apparently others think in similar ways.

    • Guest

      Spot on!!!

  • Qcl

    By posting this ur feeding the trolls dont feed the trolls.

  • Leicafanboy

    great post with nice pics – look for Casey Serin… he got his ass handed to him by his haters

  • pookiepookieca

    One for those who demanded.

    Hate away.

    • http://twitter.com/fantasticsoap Mr. Frank Rodriguez

      Ironically sad that this post never got any impressions either way.

  • Sfoster

    Hard work beats talent, when talent fails to work hard.
    All of these haters are nothing but lazy, broke loser photographers who are jealous of a young man who is a SUCCESSFUL street photo blogger. How many people went to your last workshop? Send me the link to your workshop? Do you even have a workshop? Does anyone even know you exist?
    Today is my 3rd time visiting this blog so I have a fresh perspective. I haven’t seen this many losers in one spot in a long time. People who critique have time for it. Instead of writing a chapter of hate, i suggest you go to tumblr.com and start your own blog (you know who you are).
    Any person who has many opinions, but no work, no follwers, no fans, no photos, no blog, no nothing DO NOT LISTEN to. What these losers don’t understand is that hustle is worth more than talent. Eric is not the most talented street photographer but works hard. If you don’t like it than out work him.
    You just pissed me off and now I’m even more motivated to put in work.

    • Donkey

      “….hustle is worth more than talent.”

      HA HA HA HA…..go and work in a coal mine.

      “How many people went to your last workshop? Send me the link to your workshop? Do you even have a workshop? ”

      I have never had a workshop and i will never have a workshop because i believe the entire concept of Street Photography workshops are nothing but a clever way of siphoning off money from the innocent.

      Street Photographers are born, they are not made.
      A good Street Photographer is one who believes the world can be made a better place to live in.
      Go and learn conventional photography at some authorised institute and if Almighty decides you have something to contribute to the betterment of mankind, He will drag you into Street Photography and give you the shots.

      All those who are trying to capitalize Street Photography are rogues.
      It is much much much better to be a loser than a rogue.

      “Instead of writing a chapter of hate, i suggest you go to tumblr.com and start your own blog (you know who you are). ”

      This issue has been addressed by me and others before.

  • Brock9878

    If you didn’t copy Bruce Gilden’s unique style in order to draw attention to yourself, you might be taken more seriously.

  • Larry

    Eric, don’t ever let these negative comments stifle your enthusiasm and creativity. I’ve been shooting for 35-years. And yes, every day, as a photojournalist in some of the toughest environments on the planet. If I’ve learned one thing, it’s that street photography is likely the most demanding of photographic disciplines. Not only do you have the react instantly with creativity, you have to be courteous, engaging, friendly and open. Sounds simple but many people simply don’t have the skillset to pull this off. I suspect your detractors instinctually understand they’re don’t have the right stuff. You do. I’ll like your blog and I like your photographs. Please don’t listen to the rants about being a “poseur” (it’s “poser,” by the way, regardless of what that dumb-ass Urban Dictionary says) if you decide to experiment with a certain style. Look, Gilden used flash, big deal. So did Diane Arbus, Lee Friedlander, Mary Ellen Mark….you get the idea. If anyone tells you your photographs aren’t valid because another photographer has been there before, they’re clueless. It’s all been done. What hasn’t been done is the creation of a singular image with your personal-vision imprint. Only you can do that. So bravo on the hater post. And feel great about your work. No artist achieves much without A LOT of criticism. Just smile and move on as you do on the street. Stay safe out there….

    • pookiepookieca

      Larry: “‘I’ve been shooting for 35-years. And yes, every day, as a photojournalist in some of the toughest environments on the planet”…

      Larry the “photojournalist”…”who”?

      Who are you, and who do you shoot for?
      With your “35 years as a photojournalist”, I would enjoy seeing some of your work.

  • http://www.followtheboat.com/ Jamie Furlong

    They’re not haters, Eric, they’re jealous.

    • Donkey

      Oh really!! So many people are jealous of an imposter

      • http://www.followtheboat.com/ Jamie Furlong

        If you say so, m8.

        • Donkey

          HA HA…..God bless the child in you.

  • MarkB

    Eric

    Been following you for as long as you’ve been going and you’re doing a great job. Success of the site and the following speaks for itself. What I’ve been most impressed with is the maturity of your material over time. You’re progressing rapidly and I think there are a lot of photographers out there who would rather ride on the coat tails of those up and coming photographers. We have to remember that the journey is as important as the destination. What we’d all do to have been along side those recognised masters in their early years. Eric, we’re with you for the journey. Besides, when Leica start noticing you, that says something.

    Keep the faith bro :-)

    MarkB

    • http://erickimphotography.com/blog Eric Kim

      Thanks a ton Mark- that means a ton to me. I will try my hardest to really mature with the material, as I have been learning a lot myself! Also if it weren’t for supportive people like you, I wouldn’t have the determination to keep moving forward! :)

      Cheers,
      Eric

    • Donkey

      “… I think there are a lot of photographers out there who would rather ride on the coat tails of those up and coming photographers”

      That’s exactly what Eric Kim does

  • http://www.captureminnesota.com/users/tdoty3 tom

    If I were you, I would keep my photography and business completely separate. Remember, more haters use insincere flattery than harsh criticism.

  • Amanda S.

    Hi Eric,
    I really appreciate this post
    Like you, I blog, but as a beauty blogger.
    To protect my anonymity (I’m still in school and school = massive haterville) I write under a pseudonym. I also thought that it would be wise to not disclose my current residence; I’m an American citizen and even though I’m an expat I thought I’d be entitled to write off my location as the US.
    Boy, the kind of crap I get from people? It’s really sad.
    I ask for constructive criticism from my fellow bloggers and users of the internet and what do I get?
    “This is AWFUL”
    “Stop making shit up bitch.”
    “Bearable, but I BEG you. Fix up your eyebrows before doing another tutorial, they look HORRENDOUS.”
    So thank you for writing this. It means a great deal to me. I guess haters are gonna hate, aren’t they?
    Thanks. You made me feel better :)

  • Mike

    One does not need to show their own work to criticize someone. Otherwise editors and museum curators would be out of a job. Just because I don’t like your photography, doesn’t mean I need to post a link to my portfolio to “put some skin in the game.” It’s possible to dislike your photography without even being a fellow photographer. Having said that Eric, I don’t think your stuff is bad, and I certainly don’t think you’re an a$$hole. However, as a tip, you attract way more trolls then some people because you have that personality. Especially with posts like this. Do you thing, and ignore the rest. I know it sucks, but if you can’t take trolls, you need to stop being a public persona on the internet.

    • Guest

      Strange you don’t don’t like his photography yet you are here? You take the time to comment why if it doesn’t interest you? It is if non constructive criticism is something that seems to be something you like to do okay fine. Sure you don’t have to post you photos what is it that you don’t like? is it his photos or the way he goes about them. Personally I feel to each his own style or if a shadow of some other photographer let them be to find their own style eventually or to continue because it is their choice, you don’t have to like it or even look at it, you have a choice.

  • Tucka

    you grow some balls and you can deal with “haters”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jing-Hu/100003120366663 Jing Hu

    Seriously guys, if you don’t like what Eric has to share about his style of photography, why not just move on? No one is pointing a gun to your head and make you read it. Good grief. What’s with all this uneccessary feud.

    And as for my thoughts on haters, i get them alot too on my blog. Even though i hardly blog (maybe once a month) blog about my fitness and travel, i still manage to get trolls/haters finding a way to leave their mark. It baffles me that, even when i disabled my comment box, they come running in and take their time and hate.

    Screw the haters, Eric. I really enjoy your photography. :) .

  • looboo

    when I heard EK say this, I completely lost faith with him

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUyBlv24rBE&feature=player_detailpage#t=57s

    At 0.58secs, Eric Kim said this about Leica Monochrome:

    “I haven’t had much time to shoot with it, play with it, I haven’t actually seen any of the real files yet, but er…I have had talk to alot of people who have shot with it…quite a bit…who’ve handled it…and had a good feel for it….and you know…..I had it for ABOUT 5 MINS….and kinda fiddled with it….and from what I’ve found…THE ISOS ARE REALLY INCREDIBLE”

    EK held the MM for for only 5 mins and did not see any of the files.

    He says the ISOs are really incredible.

    Now we know why Leica invites EK to their events.

  • lomm

    http://erickimphotography.com/blog/equipment/
    On his equipment page, EK says his M9 helps him “stay hidden”. But in his youtube videos, he is teaching people how to shoot people in the face. Why exactly does Mr Kim use Leica anyway?

    “If you are truly serious about street photography and want to use the ultimate tool, check out the Leica M9. Although it is definitely not cheap, it is a great investment as you take fantastic looking photos without sticking out like a sore thumb in public. It’s nearly silent shutter speed helps you stay hidden, and helps you capture the decisive moment.”

  • merp

    Hey Eric.
    I just learned of your existence 15 minute ago, have never seen any of your photographs before, nor do I know if any accusations of you doing this or that is true or not. I do know however, that this post, whether the ideas are new or not, is definitely gold and something I am now going to live by.
    I have no idea whatsoever why people like Donkey seem to have such a harsh attitude with someone they’ve probably never been even a mile’s distance from, and I respect you for having to put up with people like that.
    Keep on doing what you love.

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  • The Hater

    Or you can try Haters Gunk – Spread Love, Share Hate

  • PapaZerg

    Eric, I only saw some of your photos, they look pretty average to me(Tokyo). No offence, but I would even consider them throw-aways even at my skill level.
    But I do commend you for trying to share with people about things that you know worked for you.
    I do agree that there will always be people hating people but you have to understand that some of them do have valid points. Peace.

  • Jennifer

    I found this article because I recently launched an online store and came across my first hater. I googled “how to deal with haters on the internet” and this popped up. I’m so glad I found this article because it is therapeutic and funny! It’s sad how one negative comment can cancel out 10 positive ones. Good luck to you and thanks for writing this.

  • imamontrealer

    Hi Eric, thank you for sharing your knowledge. You are a great inspiration. When I first started manipulating my first digital camera, I really didn’t know where I was going. I searched the Internet for street photography and your were the first to appear. THANK YOU BRO !!!

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