{"id":12560,"date":"2013-06-17T06:58:19","date_gmt":"2013-06-17T13:58:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/?p=12560"},"modified":"2013-06-17T07:11:02","modified_gmt":"2013-06-17T14:11:02","slug":"interview-with-tomas-leach-director-of-in-no-great-hurry-13-lessons-in-life-with-saul-leiter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/2013\/06\/17\/interview-with-tomas-leach-director-of-in-no-great-hurry-13-lessons-in-life-with-saul-leiter\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Tomas Leach, Director of &#8220;In No Great Hurry: 13 Lessons in Life with Saul Leiter&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_12569\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-12569\" style=\"width: 660px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/2013\/06\/17\/interview-with-tomas-leach-director-of-in-no-great-hurry-13-lessons-in-life-with-saul-leiter\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"12569\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/2013\/06\/17\/interview-with-tomas-leach-director-of-in-no-great-hurry-13-lessons-in-life-with-saul-leiter\/ingh7-saul-leiter-and-director-tomas-leach\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/INGH7-Saul-Leiter-and-Director-Tomas-Leach.jpg?fit=660%2C440&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"660,440\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;4&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;Tomas Leach&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS 550D&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1297718213&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;27&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;250&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0125&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"INGH7 &amp;#8211; Saul Leiter and Director Tomas Leach\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/INGH7-Saul-Leiter-and-Director-Tomas-Leach.jpg?fit=660%2C440&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-12569 \" alt=\"INGH7 - Saul Leiter and Director Tomas Leach\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/INGH7-Saul-Leiter-and-Director-Tomas-Leach.jpg?resize=660%2C440\" width=\"660\" height=\"440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/INGH7-Saul-Leiter-and-Director-Tomas-Leach.jpg?w=660&amp;ssl=1 660w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/INGH7-Saul-Leiter-and-Director-Tomas-Leach.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 660px) 100vw, 660px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-12569\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Saul Leiter and Director Tomas Leach. Click to read more.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em><strong>Eric&#8217;s Note<\/strong>: I am pleased to share this interview with <a href=\"http:\/\/tomasleach.com\/TomasLeach\/Current.html\" target=\"_blank\">Tomas Leach<\/a>, the director of \u00c2\u00a0&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.innogreathurry.com\/InNoGreatHurry\/Home.html\" target=\"_blank\">In No Great Hurry: 13 Lessons in Life with Saul Leiter<\/a>.&#8221; If you haven&#8217;t watched it yet, make sure to catch a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.innogreathurry.com\/InNoGreatHurry\/Screenings.html\" target=\"_blank\">screening near you<\/a>, and also check out my interview with him below.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\">1. Tomas great to have you. Can you first start off by introducing yourself to our readers?<\/h2>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"INGH5\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/INGH5.jpg?resize=660%2C467\" width=\"660\" height=\"467\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Hi. Thanks for having me. I&#8217;m a documentary and commercials director based in London.<\/p>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\">2. How did you first discover film making, and how does it mesh with your interests in photography?<\/h2>\n<p>I&#8217;ve wanted to make films since I started watching a lot of great cinema in my teens.\u00c2\u00a0I&#8217;ve been into journalism and photography since even earlier.<\/p>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\">3. How did you first discover saul leiters work and what inspired you to film a documentary about his life and work?<\/h2>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"INGH6\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/INGH6.jpg?resize=660%2C467\" width=\"660\" height=\"467\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I got Saul&#8217;s book Early Color on a recommendation from a friend. It blew my mind. \u00c2\u00a0I\u00c2\u00a0fell in love with Saul&#8217;s work the second I opened it. It&#8217;s beautiful, mysterious, human and playful.<\/p>\n<p>I was stunned. And there was nothing about him anywhere. This unbelievable artist was just hidden away.<\/p>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\">4. How did you first approach saul leiter to create the film, and what were his initial reactions?<\/h2>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"INGH1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/INGH1.jpg?resize=660%2C467\" width=\"660\" height=\"467\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I got in touch with him through his gallery and started persuading him that there\u00c2\u00a0<i>must\u00c2\u00a0<\/i>be a film made about him.\u00c2\u00a0After a few months, he said that if I was in New York, we could have coffee.\u00c2\u00a0So I flew to New York to meet him for coffee.<\/p>\n<p>I arrived at his door, all nervous, and as he opened it he said only &#8216;Why do people always want things from me&#8217; and walked back inside.<br \/>\nCrucially though, he left the door open and after a bit of silence, I followed him in.<\/p>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\">5. What did you most enjoy about creating the film, and what were some difficulties you faced along the way?<\/h2>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"INGH3\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/INGH3.jpg?resize=660%2C467\" width=\"660\" height=\"467\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Saul is an incredibly fascinating man.\u00c2\u00a0He constantly surprised me. He has an openness and curiosity about the world that I find inspiring. The film is subtitled &#8217;13 lessons in life with Saul Leiter&#8217; for a good reason.<\/p>\n<p>It was tough to persuade him initially, but once we got into it, it was a joy. The difficulties are all the usual difficulties in making a film. It&#8217;s a long, slow, tough process. And\u00c2\u00a0because of the way Saul and I agreed on making the film, I was completely on my own for the production.<\/p>\n<p>So I did it all &#8211; sound, image, producing, interviewing, backing up material, carrying equipment.<\/p>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\">6. What do you ultimately want the viewers of the film to take away from it?<\/h2>\n<p>People can take whatever assumptions they want. I have plenty of views about Saul, but they are irrelevant really.<\/p>\n<p>The best thing about the film is that it is him, in his own words.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s not me or anyone else editorialising.<\/p>\n<p>Everything he says is him. Everything else is speculation.<\/p>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\">7. Was there anything you aren&#8217;t able to include in the film or things you would have liked to add afterwards?<\/h2>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"INGH8\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/INGH8.jpg?resize=467%2C660\" width=\"467\" height=\"660\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I have so much from Saul that it was beautiful and insightful that we couldn&#8217;t fit in the film. But that&#8217;s ok.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s nothing I want to add to it.<\/p>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\">8. What is some advice you would to aspiring film makers?<\/h2>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"INGH2\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/INGH2.jpg?resize=660%2C467\" width=\"660\" height=\"467\" \/><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Make films, watch films. Endlessly. It&#8217;s a craft and an art form and you need to practice all the time.<\/p>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\">9. What are some other projects you have lined up for the future?<\/h2>\n<p>I&#8217;m doing a short documentary next, then I hope to do the next feature length. There&#8217;s a few ideas around, but I haven&#8217;t settled on which it will be just yet.<\/p>\n<p>I also direct commercials and I love making them, so hopefully some more will happen soon.<\/p>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\">10. Who are some people you would like to give a shout out and thanks to in making this film possible?<\/h2>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"INGH4low\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/INGH4low.jpg?resize=660%2C467\" width=\"660\" height=\"467\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Kate, Johnny, Mark and Steve all helped me make this film. They all worked very hard on the post-production.<\/p>\n<p>Many people inspired me along the way and I owe something to all of them.<\/p>\n<p>But the main person is Margit Erb, without whom the film would have been impossible.<\/p>\n<h2>Interview with Saul Leiter<\/h2>\n<figure id=\"attachment_12572\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-12572\" style=\"width: 437px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"12572\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/2013\/06\/17\/interview-with-tomas-leach-director-of-in-no-great-hurry-13-lessons-in-life-with-saul-leiter\/pf90605\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/PF90605.jpg?fit=437%2C656&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"437,656\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;3.5&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon PowerShot G3&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1060220509&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;17.59375&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.02&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"PF90605\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/PF90605.jpg?fit=437%2C656&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12572\" alt=\"PF90605\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/PF90605.jpg?resize=437%2C656\" width=\"437\" height=\"656\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/PF90605.jpg?w=437&amp;ssl=1 437w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/PF90605.jpg?resize=199%2C300&amp;ssl=1 199w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 437px) 100vw, 437px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-12572\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo by Saul Leiter<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Check out this short but insightful interview with Saul Leiter by David Gibson from In-Public <a href=\"http:\/\/www.in-public.com\/news\/2013\/5\/a_short_interview_with_saul\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>Photos by Saul Leiter<\/h2>\n<figure id=\"attachment_12571\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-12571\" style=\"width: 440px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.in-public.com\/SaulLeiter\/gallery\/104\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"12571\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/2013\/06\/17\/interview-with-tomas-leach-director-of-in-no-great-hurry-13-lessons-in-life-with-saul-leiter\/saul\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/saul.jpg?fit=440%2C660&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"440,660\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;4&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon PowerShot G3&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1118725248&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;12.6875&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.01&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"saul\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/saul.jpg?fit=440%2C660&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12571\" alt=\"saul\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/saul.jpg?resize=440%2C660\" width=\"440\" height=\"660\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/saul.jpg?w=440&amp;ssl=1 440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/saul.jpg?resize=200%2C300&amp;ssl=1 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 440px) 100vw, 440px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-12571\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo by Saul Leiter. To see more of Saul Leiter&#8217;s work, check out his portfolio on In-Public <a href=\"http:\/\/www.in-public.com\/SaulLeiter\/gallery\/104\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\">Follow &#8220;In No Great Hurry&#8221;<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.innogreathurry.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">www.innogreathurry.com<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/innogreathurry\" target=\"_blank\">@innogreathurry<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.tomasleach.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">www.tomasleach.com<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div id=\"id3\">\n<h2>Upcoming Screenings<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.innogreathurry.com\/InNoGreatHurry\/Home.html\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"saulposterWEB\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/erickimphotography.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/06\/saulposterWEB-660x467.jpg?resize=660%2C467\" width=\"660\" height=\"467\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>They will be releasing a DVD and download of the film in early summer.<\/p>\n<p>In the meanwhile to watch the full film, you can see a full list of upcoming screenings\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.innogreathurry.com\/InNoGreatHurry\/Screenings.html\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Tuesday 11th June, 7.15pm<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"http:\/\/www.dfi.dk\/filmhuset\/cinemateket.aspx\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dfi.dk\/filmhuset\/cinemateket.aspx\">Cinemateket<\/a>, Copenhagen.<\/p>\n<p>Special screening with Director Q&amp;A.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Sunday 16th June,<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"http:\/\/www.cinematique.org\/\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cinematique.org\/\">Cinematique Theater<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0Daytona Beach, FL.<\/p>\n<p>Part of the Cafe Cinematique Discussion Series<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"widget0\">\n<div id=\"widget0-htmlRegion\">\n<div id=\"widget0-html-snippet\">&#8212;<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>Friday 21st June, 3pm<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"http:\/\/opencitydocsfest.com\/index.php?id=388\" href=\"http:\/\/opencitydocsfest.com\/index.php?id=388\">Open City Docs Festival<\/a>, London.<\/p>\n<p>With Director Q&amp;A. **Nominated for Best Emerging UK Filmmaker**<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Saturday 22nd June,<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"http:\/\/www.umbriaworldfest.it\/dett_progr.asp?id=326\" href=\"http:\/\/www.umbriaworldfest.it\/dett_progr.asp?id=326\">Umbria World Fest<\/a>, Umbria, Italy<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Monday 24th June,\u00c2\u00a0 6.30pm<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"http:\/\/www.picturehouses.co.uk\/cinema\/Arts_Picturehouse_Cambridge\/\" href=\"http:\/\/www.picturehouses.co.uk\/cinema\/Arts_Picturehouse_Cambridge\/\">Cambridge Arts Picturehouse<\/a>, Cambridge, UK<\/p>\n<p>Start of UK cinema release. With Director Q&amp;A.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Monday 24th June,\u00c2\u00a0 9.30pm<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"https:\/\/www.sohohouseny.com\/\" href=\"https:\/\/www.sohohouseny.com\/\">Soho House<\/a>, West Hollywood and NYC, USA<\/p>\n<p>Special members preview screenings.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Thursday 27th June,\u00c2\u00a0 6.40pm<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"http:\/\/www.ica.org.uk\/films\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ica.org.uk\/films\">ICA Cinema<\/a>, London, UK<\/p>\n<p>Start of UK cinema release. 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